Complete programme:

 

Two extracts:

“We are talking about a systematic system which deliberately took black people, no other people, black people from Africa to the Caribbean and exploited them there, and as a result of that a lot of things that we know today stem from this and that has to be corrected”

 

“(One last question… to Bernie Grant as one of the founders of ARM [African Reparations Movement]. Why is this the most important thing to be dealt with by black people given all the other things we have heard about in the last few weeks; unemployment, police and so forth)

I think that it is important for us to make sure that our history is correct. I think that our ancestors demand that the truth be written about what happened in the Middle Passage and what happened during colonisation and enslavement – number one. Number two – I think it is important for our young people to be able to understand where they fit in the scheme of things in this country and the rest of the world.

(Is it more important at this present time than their inability to get jobs, their treatment by Police and so forth)

I think it is as important as that and I think that at the background of these problems lie the relationship between Africa and what happened in enslavement and colonisation and Europe and Britain in particular. And I think if we are unable to crack that particular nut all these other things; Joy Gardner, Condon’s statements etc, none of these things will be solved unless we are able to solve that fundamental difference”